Transcript of Sinders Sisters Podcast
E14: The Gift of Gab: Mastering Networking Events
In this episode, we dive into the art of networking with a special focus on overcoming the common fears and awkwardness that many people face. Join us as we discuss our experiences at recent industry events, where we observed a mix of confident networkers and those struggling to make connections.
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Stacey
The best way to grow your business is going to talk to people. That people are necessary to your business no matter what you do. So networking needed. Let's figure out how.
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Stacey
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Meghan
Networking is our topic today. And I told you this topic. So you prepare. Yes. You did tell me. Doesn't mean I plan for it. You just told me. Yeah, well. That's nice. I mean, it's apropos, because when are we prepared for networking things? Never, never, never. Just. These are pants. Frequently we have you do
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Stacey
But I enjoy that. But I also enjoy, I think, because I have the gift of gab, it’s quite easy to go to networking events because it’s just easy to talk to people which is why we're talking about it today, because a lot of people find it terrifying. That's fair. So a lot of that the last networking we were at, which is quite odd because I always find it very funny. Networking is you go and talk to strange people and that's just what you do. It's the part of it, and that's how you meet new people.
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Stacey
You go up and introduce yourself or but watching people who can't but go to the networking events because they don't. Yeah, but you don't speak to anybody. So it defeats the whole purpose of it. And I always feel bad. So I mean, sometimes I'll go up and actually talk to somebody who's but it's still really awkward. It's still really it's an almost one sided conversation.
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Meghan
Probably because I also talk too much. Yeah. But there are a lot of people the seek you out which is interesting because a part of networking is having an open personality. If you are not open, if you don't look open or if you don't approach people, they may not approach you. Good point. which makes it harder for other people, right
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Meghan
There's a certain aspect of how you look visually, how you how you emote. Yes. What you like, what your face says that's you have resting which face. It will be harder for people to approach you. Not impossible that hard. I don't disagree with that. Yeah. Which means that then you have to do the work. Correct. Since nobody will come up to you. Yeah. You are approached constantly all the time. All the time.
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Stacey
It's been like that forever with everybody. Everybody knows I know everybody's life story. It's awesome, I enjoy it, don't get me wrong, most of the time. But there's after events sometimes. Like the last networking we did, I was done people and I got home and I'm like, I'm, I'm good for a few days.
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Stacey
I see people, it's a lot of people. But yeah, I've always been able to just everybody tells me their love story. It's great. Love it.
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Meghan
Well it’s okay. The last networking event that we went to was 2 or 3 days ago, like 2 to 300 people. Yeah, it was huge. It was an industry event. So wedding industry networking event. And we haven't seen a lot of these people in a really long time. Yeah. What were the biggest takeaways? Like you said? some people are still really uncomfortable. So we saw a lot of that. Yeah. Not everyone in our industry does a lot of networking. We talk on social media. We do, which is a part of networking.
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Meghan
You can't get into that later. But we saw a lot of people that were really uncomfortable with the idea of going outside their comfort zone, but what else? What else did we see? Like what were some of the good aspects that you saw people doing?
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Stacey
I love when you’re with somebody who doesn’t know the other people and they’re like, this is so-and-so. They work in this part of the industry or not in the industry at all. They work in something else, or this is just my friend. And that's a great segue into being like, oh, you do this. And so you're meeting somebody awesome. That's always great if you go with someone or if you don't like, if you're dressed well, I don't mean well, like you have to be suit and tie.
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Stacey
I mean, if you're dressed in, your people will often comment on your clothes, which I think is kind of important because that's just an easy thing for somebody to be like, oh, I love your shirt. And then there's a whole conversation like, oh, I got it from wherever. And it starts something completely different. Then you'll find it. You have things in common.
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Stacey
So I think that could be a really important thing. when you're networking,
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Meghan
it was one of the things that I used with a woman that I knew. I knew the I knew her face. But there's so many times that you go to go to the networking events typically together. Yes, but everyone knows you. Not everyone knows me.I don’t go to the photoshoots or necessarily the weddings. Right? So I'm not as known and I don't know them necessarily. I might know their face. So exactly that. I knew that I knew her, but we haven't met. Right. So that's exactly what I did. You're walking past. I was like, your earrings are fantastic because there were these massive flowers and they were great.
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Meghan
And that started a whole conversation about where she got them. And then she chose between these ones or these ones, and she could have gone. These ones I love. These are. Yeah, I love that I'm super happy to hear this. Yeah, yeah. and I would say that that is one of the hardest parts for people to know what to talk about.
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Meghan
Because if you don't know someone, where do you start with clothes or. Easy. Yeah, a word appearance is easy. But if you want some kind of deeper like that conversation, wanted to be really happy, like talk for a couple minutes, but it didn't go much further. So the superficial, the superficial pieces that you can start with are extremely simple.
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Stacey
but also not deep. So the conversation ends. where do you go? So you need like a conversation spark almost. I think it was Vanessa Van Edwards. Is that right? Yeah. Who talks about spark? And if you have not read her books, you need to read her books. I don't care if you're an introvert, extrovert, whatever. Books are great.
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Stacey
Yeah. is like the science of people. They are absolutely incredible. Yeah. so it's like it's a spark in the conversation, which ignites something to go on to the next conversation, which can be used with the second person like you said, when there's somebody with you and instead of instead of saying, this is my friend John, right.
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Meghan
And he works in finance, he's six foot five and do us because pretty much I mean, if you started that conversation, like I would run with that, I would love that. But I also I mean, that's just we've done I've done this for so long that it's just an easy thing to do. But that would be a hilarious thing.
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Meghan
But the funny thing about it is that it I mean, that was a it was a poor example when we because it's, it's topical but only if you're on TikTok. So if you use that as your spark, it would be a phenomenal spark with certainty. Right The right people in whatever stat algorithm on TikTok. And they've seen that video, or they just stare at you like, oh, is that he doesn't have.
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Meghan
no. But it's something like it's something interesting about that person. So like, this is my friend John who works in finance. And then it's very, very cut and dry. It's very it's it's done. And then the person says, oh, nice. That's nice. I’m Meghan I work in wedding gown And that's like, it's a stop.
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Meghan
You need something, you need like a meet or something. You need something interesting to keep the conversation going. Yeah. So this is or especially if you know those people, if you can say, this is my friend John, he used to work with horses and like a long time ago in his previous careers. And I know that you love horses.
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Stacey
This is Stacey. She works and in weddings, but she loves horses, too. Like it's completely unrelated to your to your work life. Correct. But it's something that you could then spark together as a common interest. Exactly that conversation. Exactly. Stacey 00: 07: 24: 21 And people love that. People love it when things are completely different. Like, you don't have to talk about what you're doing now because maybe another conversation will lead into that, especially if you're trying to meet people and deal with, other businesses having common ground, not just on that business, but something else is really important, because people like to do business with people that they like.
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Stacey
Yeah. And that's why networking is also crazy important, because it's hard if you're through a computer screen might just computer screen, but if you like, send an email and be like, hi, I'm so and so and this is what I do. Most people are like, delete. You meet those people and you make a connection. Most of the time you will end up working together.
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Meghan
Yeah, yeah. Especially if you can if, if you're memorable, which is where it comes in to like visual can be memorable. What you wear, how you dress, how you present yourself. Very, extremely memorable. The way that you talk or the way that you introduce people that makes you memorable as well. Because that it's like, oh, they really know me.
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Meghan
Yeah, they know about me. They know things to well enough to introduce me to other people there. Those are two incredibly important aspects to being remembered. And the other thing is how you speak. So learning how to talk to other people, learning what to say, not to say things that put your foot in your mouth total it. It's difficult.
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Stacey
And you're going to run into these things like you'll end up, you'll go to your first few networking things and you will you will do that like, but I don't think it will be a problem if somebody said, I am so nervous, I'm sorry. I'm so this is my first time doing a networking event. And so I'm really nervous and no one is going to go, oh, okay, bye.
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Meghan
No one's going to leave you up. That's unfair. Some people might. Then that's why you're like, that's not your person and you've chosen the wrong person to approach the market again. Yes, because the confidence portion comes in. You have those people. You're there to network with them. If they're not willing to network with you, then they're not the people that you want to talk to.
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Meghan
you are there to network with people if they're going to, if they're going to blow you off or shun you, that's not who you want to talk to. You're not going to get anywhere with them, even if you tried every. So try again. Yeah. It's, it's putting your pride aside. And if somebody says something rude, inappropriate, something that's not helpful, well, that that tells you who they're telling you there.
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Stacey
And I get wow. And that sucked that again. But then when they do it again because and the more you do it, the least problematic it is the least you're just after a bit, you're like, oh well next. ohhh That was weird. Yeah. Okay. We've done that many times. We're a walk away from conversation. Be. Did you hear is that that was me that was me
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Meghan
And then move on to somebody else. Yeah, exactly. And it's not to say that like I put my foot in my mouth. If I have anything like we all, we all do. I can't say I just feel well, no. And if anybody you're always like, I'm. I'm good with words. I'm good with emails like, oh, I love words, I do words is what I do.
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Stacey
This is true. I put my foot in my mouth frequently. If I haven't slept, if I don't, if I'm just off, like in my. It's fun for me to watch Meg from afar when we go to networks, and she hasn't slept for a few days and the kids have been like jerks and it's been busy. It's fun to just watch her from afar because I'm like, oh, here we go.
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Meghan
Because you keep your picture. The brain is not firing quickly like you can see I'm trying, but I've struggling. I'm still going to do it. It's like a rolling disaster It's awesome. So there are definitely going to be times where you will put your foot in your mouth. Yeah, if it's a real bad, apologize immediately. But that's end of story.
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Meghan
Yeah. And if it's not that bad, most people probably won't remember if you just said something stupid or call them by the wrong name. Oh, my God, I'm so sorry. It's that that. My bad. Like, it's. It happens. It happens. Yeah. The hardest time that I have. Especially, like, if we're talking about what? The networking we just did a couple days ago.
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Meghan
I have a hard time relating a person. I know your face. And I'll know your name if you say it. Yeah, I have a really hard time relating to what piece of the industry you're in, are you photographer? Are you a planner? or are you hair Makeup? And I still get them confused because to me it's three separate pieces of information.
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Meghan
Your name, your your name, your business name and your milieu your your specific task. That's en francais I'm going to tell you change something here . This is half of the reason why sometimes my networking doesn't go well, put foot in mouth because sometimes I can't differentiate between French and English in my head, and I can't just randomly say French words because I think people might appreciate that.
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Stacey
I might start another conversation of, oh, you speak French? No, no, my husband is and my kids are French. Yeah, I don't actually speak that well in French, but sometimes my brain says otherwise. I can't remember the English word anymore, and I have no problem with people thinking I'm strange. So it's. It doesn't bother me. Yeah, it's a memorable thing.
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Meghan
Yeah. We and I will say you and even you said this after that evening. What we heard most from people are how authentic we are. And and how well, I mean, not it's not funny that the word funny was used, but it's that openness. I am not bothered by saying I don't want to. I don't want to sound stupid.
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Meghan
I never do, and I feel like I'm smart enough to not sound stupid, but I am not bothered if I tripped my words, say something wrong, stumble a little off like that. The other thing I'm not bothered by it and I think that plays a lot into it. It happens. We're human or human. We're not robots. We're not profound.
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Stacey
So when it happens, I'm just like, oh, move on, right. Makes everybody else more comfortable. Who's speaking to you? Who who watches us? So we we got a, this email comment on the podcast, which was really nice everybody for watching. Yes. They, but it was I think just because we're us and unapologetically us and we are messy because we are human.
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Meghan
We did it from the how long have we said it? Ten years. Now. We, we are who we are because we are capable of being so nice. Yeah, I don't know. I, I live in the Prince Islands. We have like, our home personality or work personality or our phone voice that sure, it's necessary, but we're not good at being someone that we're not now that's true.
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Stacey
Which is nice for other people. Exactly. Yeah. Like anything different. Unless they don't like that. Then if they don't like us, then that's too bad. That's about. That's too bad for you. Because, I mean, look what you're missing out on. Look at what you're. It. we’re hilarious
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Meghan
Oh my goodness. okay, so that all of that, I would sum back up into confidence because it took us how long to get to this point where we are okay with who we are. Okay. Yeah, okay. Fair confidence, I think. But also just the the drive, the push, the the stubbornness to not give up after the first few stumbling blocks.
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Meghan
Yeah. Yeah. Okay. So yeah. So visual aspects make yourself obviously approachable. Yeah. Visually or through facial expressions, emotions, how you speak, that kind of thing. Learn about people, know about people, have conversations with them and remember aspects about them so that you can introduce them to somebody else. Because an incredibly easy conversation spark. It's an incredibly easy way to introduce two people who could work together.
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Meghan
And then you introducing those people can can create more for you. Yeah. Because they'll both then spread the word that you helped, confidence be okay with who you are and what comes out of your mouth, Stacey 00: 15: 10: 12 - 00: 15: 27: 14 because the easier that is for you to just be yourself, the more people will gravitate to you who are similar to you or who will work well with you, because it's going to be really difficult to work with somebody, even, or just be friends with somebody who is your complete opposite or somebody that you dislike.
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Meghan
Like, that's just crazy. If you do that, it'll be hard. Yeah, it's possible. And there are times that I mean, there's times sometimes if if it's an area that you want to get into, has people in it that you don't like. I mean, it's normal, right? It's normal to have I tell the kids all the time, there will be teachers you don't like along the way.
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Meghan
Don't be people that you work with that you don't like, which is not our problem because our people are amazing. I agree, but there could be there is that for them that works for the government and that I guarantee you that that's a problem. Yes, there there will be times where that happens. So I mean, if you have to work with somebody because you feel like it'll get you somewhere or they're in in an area where you need to be.
00:16:05:13 - 00:16:29:11
Meghan
There'll be other great people in that area. So I would never work with someone that I don't like, but it's it's a grain of salt I suppose. Fair, fun. One thing that we haven't touched on is how important social media, what I suppose, how important social media is and all of this, but also how it relates to networking, because social media is a networking channel.
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Meghan
Okay. We a lot of people look at it as entertainment and it is what I'm saying that it isn't. But social media is your front face when you can't be in front of people in person. Yeah. Fair. So the importance of being you on social media, having the confidence on social media, being able to say that like it's all the same, the same line items that I'm going through, you have to use all of those on social media as well.
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Meghan
And then I remember the first videos that we made, same way we put our foot in our mouth more frequently. We talked online in the beginning in person. Social media was difficult. Difficult. I mean, we didn't take selfies. I mean, we've got with you, you know, we are we grew up in an age where there wasn't cell phones and there wasn't computers and all that stuff.
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Stacey
So even when we started down this journey, having to get social media was, I don't I don't want to be the face of the business, like, well, you are no good luck in that. You're in front of the camera. So the first, definitely the first. While of all the videos were awkward, terrible, terrible angles, terrible. Just everything.
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Stacey
You just made so many mistakes. But then now, now it's just normal. I might as well just have a camera attached to my face. And I talk to it all the time, and it's literally it doesn't. It's like it just doesn't bother me anymore people. I mean, the one there's there's so many other people doing it. Yeah. And two, it's a part of your business if you want to grow, if you want to get bigger, if you want to reach more people, if you want to help, more friends, whatever you're trying to get to, it's necessary.
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Stacey
Yeah. That's where everyone is. It's there's there's no newspapers anymore. There's no I mean, TV, sure, but I mean, what most people are not that large. The TV ads would be necessary or available. so you you where you found that was social media. That's what everybody goes to. Well. And how like if you're introducing people or the, all the people that we met the other night, half of the reason probably that I would know their face or their name or their business name is because of social media and we've worked with them.
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Meghan
So I know that our photo shoots had them involved. I remember one of those aspects, but I won't be able to connect them because I've never met them in person. Right. But that starting point is incredibly necessary. Like it started on social media. That sort of. You sure, I can start a conversation with you because I know of you, or I know your business name or your or your name.
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Stacey
So social media is like a starting point. That's where it's a first connection. Yeah. Exactly. And you want it to be able to run all the way through who you are on social media. That's who the person wants to meet when they get to wherever. For you're networking you actually meet them in person. It should be the same person.
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Stacey
Yep. Like you shouldn't be I mean especially even like the ones where you see where it's somebody's picture, but it's like ten years ago and, you know, and then you meet them in person and you're like, well, you don't look anything like what I thought you would like it. It has to be a fair representation of who you are at this moment and what you stand for, because that's what connects you to people.
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Meghan
Correct. I'm going to and then right way into robotics, which is not going to help for a second. There's a thing called the uncanny valley in robotics. Okay. What if it has it's a difference between a robot looking like a robot or a robot looking like a person. Okay, same kind of thing. If it's wrong, it'll set us off it.
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Meghan
It's the visual aspect of it. It's. It's wrong. Right. So it's in the same as a social media platform. If I'm looking at your page. Yeah. And I see your face and I see what you stand for, then I need you in person. I'm like, what? Like it's a disconnect. It's a jolt. Right? And we don't realize that those happen, but it messes with our brain and it sticks with us.
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Meghan
So one of the easiest ways to mess up your networking capabilities is to have a disconnect. Okay? You can ask to be consistent, a complete sense. Yeah. But there's my robotics talk. Thanks, man. Welcome to my TEDx talk. Often working with sister. Random random fact number five is, we spoke really quickly about Vanessa Van Edward, and her books and, largely recommend.
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Stacey
Okay, so the one that we definitely there's queues and what was the other one or learning, me neither we'll write it in the description where we find it. But yeah, I mean, you can find her books on Amazon. Absolutely. Yes. Those are on I saw a video the other day, on TikTok of, Mel Robbins. Okay, interviewing of Vanessa Van Edwards about this specifically.
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Meghan
And I'll share that tip too, because we're talking about networking. And it was about networking because most of what she talks about has to do with networking and growing. You're growing your capabilities in that way. But her point was like the specific question that the Robbins aske her was, how do you if you are if you're uncomfortable with networking, how do you become more comfortable?
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Meghan
Or what is the biggest tip that you can give someone that will make their networking more comfortable right from the start? So it was it was where to stand. So she said the the thing that she finds is the hardest for people is to understand where to stand in a networking situation. Okay, if you're uncomfortable, if you're comfortable, you're going to wander.
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Meghan
You know, people, you can make connections easily, but if you're uncomfortable, where you stand makes a huge difference. Because she and this was this is what she was saying. If you if you're uncomfortable, you're most likely to stand right inside the front entrance. Yes. Because you come in, you don't want to push into the into the entire event, right?
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Meghan
You you are you feel safe when the door. correct . You could run. Yes. Yeah. That's. Yeah. I got it And so but that is by far one of the worst places to stand because everyone's coming in one, it causes a logistical roadblock. If everyone stood at the front entrance and spoke to each other. Yeah, But the second was that people are not ready to talk yet, because when they come in either
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Meghan
Right. Yeah. So you're standing there hoping for a conversation with somebody who just entered, but they are not ready to talk to you. Yeah. So what it came down to was that the best place to stand was beside the bar or a drink stand of some sort. Because if she watches patterns, it's so she does do analyzes networking events and watches the patterns of people.
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Meghan
So if they would come in, they would they by the time they're settled, they've stood in line for the drink. They've got their drink, they turn around that she's like, you could visibly see, now I'm ready to talk to somebody. Yes But you're standing right there, and then you save them because they turn around and they're ready, And they're because they're doing the same thing as you were.
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Stacey
They're like, I need to go find somebody to talk to now. Okay, so I have a drink in my hand, which makes me feel safe because I'm holding something and I mean the other woman to a care of purse. So you feel like, okay, I'm good. I'm doing things, but now I'm ready. Now I'm ready. And if you, as the person who's uncomfortable in a networking situation, is the person standing there beside the drink counter and you say, hey, that's a beautiful scarf you're wearing.
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Meghan
You just saved them the awkwardness of trying to go find someone else to correct. So I'm not saying this is a work 100% of the time, but as the biggest tip, again, I just she's one of my favorite people ever. Yeah, I love her. Yeah. She's phenomenal. Yeah, I love her backstory. I love what she does. And I love how passionate she is about what she does.
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Stacey
Yeah. So greatly recommend Agree. Yeah. Try to read her books is there incredible or watch her videos if you're not a reader. Yeah. So what are our tips. What are our takeaways on this okay. So be open. Be open because that's the whole reason why you're there. That's why your reason why everybody's there is to talk to each other, make conversations, dress for it.
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Stacey
Yeah. I'm also I'm a big advocate though for dressing properly. Like just in any sense. I mean, don't leave my house when maybe Jason ever. I don't generally leave my house without putting earrings on like I did that to me as a person, but I think it's really important. I feel better always when I go out and I'm dressed.
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Stacey
When I'm dressed for the network, it's even easier and better. That also puts where your business, or whatever it is you're trying to do, shows how you feel about it. Does that make sense? It feels that you're it makes it feel like you're invested. Yeah. Because you are a physical representation of your business. Yeah. Exactly And I love my business, I love what I do.
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Stacey
Yeah I believe in it. Yeah. And this is my physical representation of that. For us. If you think about we're in the wedding industry. So if you think about it, if I can't dress myself, then how are brides in? Let's say when I with our brides, how are brides going to believe that we can dress them if we can't dress ourselves?
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Stacey
It's it's definitely a disconnect right there for for what we do. confidence in yourself. Confidence in yourself. Yeah. And then don't be afraid to have somebody brush it off. Yeah. Just go do it. Try not to take it personally, I think would be the. Yeah. You also don't know what's going on in that other person's life.
00:25:24:21 - 00:25:43:00
Stacey
Like, we don't know that two minutes earlier they didn't get a phone call about something that happened and it's upsetting. And then they're completely off as just as a date you don't know. So that's why I always think of when somebody is just not right or upset or angry, what have you. We don't know what's going on their life.
00:25:43:04 - 00:26:02:09
Stacey
Yeah. brushed it off . It's not you. It very, very likely has nothing to do with you, nothing to do with the conversation you're having or you wanting to approach them. Totally. It's entirely having to do with that. Yep. So taking it personally doesn't get you anywhere? No. Next person. Yeah. Networking things that are not just in your field.
00:26:02:11 - 00:26:21:22
Stacey
That's a good point. Go do different things. Go don't go something I mean maybe something that's interesting to you go.I don’t know it depends on what you're doing. And opening we, we go to an opening of a coffee shop or something. Yeah. There's you know, something opens up in the town that we're in. We go see them, we go talk to them.
00:26:21:24 - 00:26:39:21
Stacey
They're not at all in what we do, but they work well for us. Because at the moment, if you have coffee shops, great. If we like you, if everything's great, well, then we're going to send our brides. That would be like while they're waiting for something else, go have a coffee down here. I think that's really important. So when they finish their appointment, then we have somewhere to send them that we can we, we can say we've been there.
00:26:39:21 - 00:26:56:11
Stacey
They were great. Please go see them. Yeah. have a great coffee. Exactly. Yeah. I think that's important. And just having other business owners that are not in the same field as you, I think is really important as well, that annoying other people. If you're in business in general, you have your you have your business and you have your, your area of expertise.
00:26:56:17 - 00:27:16:11
Meghan
And you should know people who are also in that same area. But you have to know whether other business owners are still other business owners. So you are all in business. Yeah. Whether it's whether it's mechanics or woodworking or bridal, we're all business owners. We all can all come to terms on something. We can all talk about business.
00:27:16:11 - 00:27:41:21
Meghan
And so we could all complain about the government I'm sure. Yes we can. There's always something that can bring you together. Doesn't matter if you're in the same in the same industry. Yeah I agree. Tell me about who else you would recommend as a book or even a podcast or anything. Also for networking, I mean, we recommended Vanessa Van Edwards when it was just because her book is crazy important.
00:27:41:21 - 00:27:59:24
Stacey
Like there's so many, so many things we can touch on in her books, but who would you recommend? Yeah, we'd love to know that. And because maybe there's stuff that we haven't seen and people he wouldn't listen to. So that's what I want to know. And we still do it. Like, we've been doing this for a very, very long time, and we've been working on our confidence for a very, very long time.
00:28:00:04 - 00:28:12:00
Stacey
But we just read her within the last year. Yeah. So absolutely, I would love to know other podcasts or other books that that you would recommend comment below. Thanks for listening.