Transcript of Sinders Sisters Podcast
E2: The Highs and Lows of the wedding
On today's episode, we delve into the rollercoaster ride of running your own business(es), including the unique challenges of managing multiple ventures. We candidly discuss the highs, lows, and everything in between, offering insights into the realities of entrepreneurship. From navigating through the pandemic's uncertainties to overcoming personal and professional obstacles, we share our lowest moments and celebrate our highest achievements. Join us as we reflect on resilience, adaptability, and the strategies we employ to weather the storms.
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Stacey
On today's episode, we're going to talk about the highs and lows of running a business. The good, the bad and the ugly
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Meghan
Today, today might be the ugly.
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Stacey
Welcome to the Chronicles of Caffeine and Ambition, hosted by the Sinders Sisters. I'm Stacey.
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Meghan
And I'm Meghan. And what we are here to do on our podcast is tell you about business, life, families. Essentially everything that we do, we want to share with you because we have a lot of. elf-confidence. We’ve learned a lot of self-confidence over the years. We sure have, and we want to share that with you. We want to show you how.
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Stacey
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Stacey
Let's do this.
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Meghan
I'm starting today's podcast off with a quote. Hey, look, ma, I made it. so it's like when a song gets in your head. But it was apropos because, Stacey was playing that song just a second ago when we were looking through social. And today's topic is the ups and downs, the highs and lows of running your own business and then running multiple businesses.
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Stacey
and there's so many of both
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Meghan
So many highs. So many lows.
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Stacey
Yeah. Yeah I think it is for both. Because really without a low you wouldn't feel the highs that well
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Meghan
that’s fair. So my first question is what's the biggest memory. Like if I said to you what was the lowest low. What is the first thing that comes to your mind.
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Stacey
Realizing that we didn't know what the heck we were doing about inventory and purchasing and anything like that because we messed up real bad and I had to check my ego at the door for that one. That hurt a lot. Yeah. Yeah.
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Meghan
That's an oh that's a, that's a knife in the chest. Oh look at me. I mean I made a mistake.
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Stacey
And now and then a little mistake. Big mistake. Yeah. and that cost us.
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Meghan
It cost a lot. It cost years ago is what you did. Yeah. It was one of the biggest. And so in growing, if you go back and watch our first for the background of our story and how we started the businesses. But so we came out of our first business being a service industry, our second business being, inventory based.
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Meghan
So inventory management was not something we had. Anything we did had no idea how to do any of it. No, no, no. But we have enough ego, enough self-confidence to know that we will make it through anything and we'll figure it out, but we figure it out as we go.
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Stacey
So trial and error, trial and error.
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Meghan
And we did not look into it. We did not look into it. That is not one of the things that I read. And again, I will say I will say it over and over. Inventory is the bane of my existence. So as the researcher, as the background planner, if either of us is a planner, it would be me, which is sad.
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Stacey
no, I'm not 100%. No. We know what we do. We walk into the bridal markets, go, oh my goodness, look at all the pretty dresses. I think we need almost all of them
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Meghan
All we need all of these. Obviously, there's a bride for every single one of these dresses, and we have to have everyone in our shop. No, it was bad. So I mean, we didn't look into any of it, didn't prepare at all. And I don't even think that we realized what the difference was between a service based industry and an inventory based industry.
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Meghan
I didn't know this is how unprepared we were, but that's why we're here. That's why we're here talking to you. Because as much as we didn't plan, and maybe in hindsight, I probably would suggest that you have some kind of prep, I would always suggest that, you know what you're walking into. Now, in hindsight, can I say that we do it all the time ourselves?
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Meghan
No,
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Stacey
No don't be silly.
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Meghan
That's why. That's why we have a team now. That's why we have a team now. Because we know our strengths and our weaknesses, and we know that planning is not a it's not it's not a strength.
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Stacey
It's so true because it is the people that you build around you to run your business for. You are so important, and you get smarter people than you and the things that you can't do. You use your strengths and you do what you do best and what you love to do. And then that makes it a heck of a lot easier to run the business, because then the people who are doing this are the things you love to do it, you know, really good at.
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Meghan
And they're really good at it. Yeah. Okay. Well, I'll tell you mine too, because I asked so my core memory personally of like one of the worst of times was coming off of that poor management of inventory. We were in such a bad spot financially in the business and everything. Too much staff, too much inventory, everything we done pretty terribly wrong.
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Meghan
I had to tell one of our suppliers that I just didn't have the money to pay them. And up until that point, it's not like you, you can think back and be like, well they obviously knew that it wasn't going well, but I had never said it out loud. So I guess our biggest core memories of the worst of times are the same.
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Meghan
It's checking your ego. They both are, because I had to put my pride aside and actually pick up the phone, which I also don't do. Pick up the phone and call the supplier and tell our accounts lady that I did not have the money to pay her and probably wouldn't for the next little while, and it hurt real bad.
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Meghan
But what I got out of it with her, she's a phenomenal woman. I love that woman. And what did she say to you? What should what I got out of it from her was, oh, don't worry, everybody's in the same spot right now. And it was full out like it was a face slap, but.
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Stacey
Almost a weight lifted to.
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Meghan
Oh, it was, but I'm saying, like it's not a slap in the face. It's it was a wake up call to me that we're only focused on ourselves. We're only paying attention to what we're doing. The industry was bad at the time, so we had made a lot of mistakes, and we were not doing really well in running the business at that time.
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Meghan
But it wasn't just us either. It. And then that was.
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Stacey
Is yeah, that was a really bad year of because the industry flexes like any industry does. And it was.
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Meghan
Sometimes when these are really popular, sometimes they're not. And it goes with recessions and it goes it goes with a lot of the DIY year where everybody made everything for their wedding. That was a terrible year for us, the lows and the highs, honestly. But the lows, came often with personal lows, too. Like the first episode. One, if you haven't seen it, we talked a little bit about the fact when we were in our first business, we didn't Stacey even speak for a year, two years.
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Stacey
Something like that. I mean, I blocked that one out of my memory there. Yeah, yeah.
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Meghan
I mean, I know it was there. I remember some of the stupid things we said to each other or said through our mom because we were childish, but.
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Stacey
And wouldn't speak. Yes. that was a definite low. And then, I mean, of course, that hinders the business as well when you don't speak to your business partner.
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Meghan
100%. Yeah, we made it through it, thankfully, because of the people that we have around us. But we it was also in relation to some pretty low times that we were having personally, because our personal lives affect the business, because we are the business as much as we have our community and we have our team, and we need everybody around us to create what we do to continue doing what we do.
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Meghan
But if we're not on top, if we're not on our game, yeah, then we're dragging everything down. Absolutely. So those those were some pretty low years for both of us.
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Stacey
Those were terrible years in our personal life. For both of us. there's a whole there's a whole long episode on those ones. But you have to wait for.
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Meghan
Let's switch from Debbie Downer. Let's go to some Beth amphetamines right now.
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Stacey
I like Beth amphetamines would be better me, that's okay.
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Meghan
So, what was your biggest high that we've talked about? Your biggest low. What was your biggest high over the years? And we're talking, like right back to the beginning. We're going on almost 20 years of owning businesses. And we just started a third talking about a fourth what over all of those years, what's like the biggest thing in your brain that it's like, that's the day.
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Meghan
That's the fireworks day.
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Stacey
Opening the second shot when we opened our second boutique, and I don't even know if it was the day that it wasn't the the day that we opened. It was a random day. We were going down to visit, do some training as two girls who are running the shop there for us, and it was just pulling up beside it and the realization of we have a second shop.
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Stacey
Yeah, we all do. We have look at us.
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Meghan
And it's not even like, sorry, I'm throwing it. Terms like first business, second business. We own 30 businesses, but our second our bridal shop, the second business has two locations.
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Stacey
Correct. So this this is heading to the second location.
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Meghan
It's just headed the second location. So I mean we downplay ourselves pretty frequently. We don't realize what we have or how much we do.
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Stacey
No, I don't think we do that.
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Meghan
We agree that they broke through that.
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Stacey
At 100%. It did, and there was no reason for it. It's not as if we were going through something, exciting anything. It was just a realization of driving around the corner, looking at it and being.
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Meghan
Like, oh my gosh.
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Stacey
holy moly It's very hard for me not to swear right now. You can put in what you think I would actually say, but I can't say it on the podcast anyways, that's what I felt like that day. It was like this, like like look at us. But like, I'm so proud of myself. So part of us, so proud of everything that everybody is.
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Stacey
God is here to this point. Because when we were starting out this journey, I remember saying to Meg, we're going to be so big, like, so big, everyone will know what Sinders is. Everyone will know us. This is like I plan for like grander and make you smaller item and be like, yeah, okay, okay Stace
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Meghan
Okey Sure. So sure, you keep going with your fancy plans there in your head. Thankfully, we now have somebody who is the rock to the double balloons that I get to be, because I get to float around and do the crazy ideas to and dream and plan and crazy, crazy, crazy. Yes. And there's somebody else holding us down. So.
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Meghan
Exactly. Unfortunately for him, he has two helium balloons too. He does hold on to. He chose it.
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Stacey
He did. We'll get him on the podcast one day and he can tell his side of the story.
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Meghan
And we're going to ask him his highs and lows, because those will be funny to hear. His high will be joining us. His low will be joining us and being told that he's not allowed to touch anything.
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Stacey
That’s exactly oh my gosh, that's a full episode on its own.
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Meghan
poor Chris I have a high. That is an extremely it's silly unless you're a book work person, which I'm not as much anymore, but I am much more so. A book person is Stacey but one of my biggest highs is. And it was pregnant at the time because when we bought the second business, when we bought the bridal shop, Stacey had just had a baby.
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Meghan
Yes. And I was currently pregnant. Yes, with my first child. So the pregnancy hormones, craziness, new mom brain like we were. Maybe not with it quite then.
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Stacey
It’s quite the time we were buying a business
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Meghan
quite a time time to be buying a business. And guess what? I did and enjoyed it. I wrote a business plan. I wrote a proper like 20 page business plan, and as ridiculous as this sounds, its Stacey with me as like one of those major things that I've done in my life. And I wrote this massive plan and I've never written one before.
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Meghan
And but I like writing and I like words. So I looked up what it was look like, what you're supposed to have in order to get our loan. So me sitting there writing this business plan and I enjoyed it, and then I lost it. The computer didn't save it. Like I lost the file three times.
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Stacey
High to a complete crash, and.
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Meghan
I. This only makes sense because I'm like, I because I was pregnant at this time and I was probably doing something stupid. But how do you write a 20 page business plan and lose it three times ?
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Stacey
because you’re pregnant 100%?
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Meghan
but It is actually one of my highs to think back and know that I wrote that and I and then was able to write it again. And then I think I fully lost it three times. So I did have to write it over again three times. But thankfully by the third time I had like, pieces of it left or I knew what I had written, but I was very proud of myself.
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Stacey
And so it should be. this is why we work well together, because that is not my jam whatsoever. I'll get you some pretty pictures. I'll make things all nice, and I'll be creative and give me that stuff all day, every day. Paint. Give me my paint clothes. I will renovate this building that.
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Meghan
your two Hundred year old. Paint a clothes
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Stacey
I will renovate stuff for sure. But no. Ask me to write a business plan. I will cry for days.
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Meghan
I which is hilarious because I don't enjoy the crafty things. Like how many times every year we try to do something for Christmas with the team, and we always choose craft things, and we're sitting there on that day and doing this craft, and I'm sitting there going, I hate my life, I hate crafts. Why did I agree to this?
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Meghan
Whose idea was this? I don't want to do this craft. Thankfully, it's not always about me. So everyone else enjoys the craft.
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Stacey
And I'm some of them. Some of them enjoy the craft.
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Meghan
some of them enjoy because we ask them.
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Stacey
All the old steaming joys, the crafts.
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Meghan
So true. Not all the bridal team.
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Stacey
Those other years. We send them down zip lines and do things like that. And I don't think the alterations team enjoys that as much.
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Meghan
That is. And that's a great comment though, because that would be one of the huge highs for things that we have done, like the crazy things you think about running a business and taking care of your team, because we are really big on that. We're really big on taking care of the team and making sure that everybody's happy and doing things because we like to do things ourselves.
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Meghan
So why not do things as a company too? But instead of pizza parties or I don't know, what are the things like barbecues? What do people what other what are normal companies do? I don't know.
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Stacey
I don't know. We take our zip line
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Meghan
we take our zip lining. Even the what was what was the 90 not 90 she was 70.
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Stacey
Oh gosh. Yeah, definitely. She couldn't make it quite up the hill. So she got a four wheel ride, but she made it down those at once. I was impressed I was.
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Meghan
And the great thing about that day, this day is definitely one of the highs of the past 20 years. But the best thing she was so determined and yeah, couldn't make it up the hill. So they gave her life. But she was not quitting. No, she was going down the zip line
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Stacey
She was waiting for us at the bottom. And not only was it like just zip line it was pouring rain!
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Meghan
It was pouring rain
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Stacey
Pouring rain. We all got Soaked
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Meghan
Yeah. And there were multiple people, which we found out later because we were early on in the second business, so they didn't know us well, whereas if they'd known as well, they might have said, that's really not my thing because we get that now. We can't do zip lining again with the whole team because half of them refused to go.
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Meghan
But they wouldn't say it early on because they didn't know us yet. So everyone came and everyone did it. But greatest thing about it is that even though they afterwards told us that they didn't want to do it, they were they were afraid. One of them specifically, and she was one of the older ladies on the team. But she specifically said to me, I absolutely did not want to do that.
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Meghan
Terrified of it. But I am so proud of myself right now that I did it. And you got to tell the grandkids that she went zip lining. She was so happy about it afterwards. So, I mean, we do like to push boundaries a little bit, and we do like to drag people along with us. Super grateful that they did it and super proud of them that we all did it too.
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Meghan
Totally. I do remember. So I am back to Debbie Downer. So one of the worst times and because it was a really bad time for the two of us in one instance that it didn't last. Thankfully I think I was also pregnant again. So this is kind of the problem. We've had a lot of kids between the two of us and some of the some of these things are skewed by hormones.
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Meghan
But I remember the day that you called me because it was the Saturdays that we were trying to alternate and you were working, and I wasn't, and you called me to tell me that you thought we needed to shut down for Covid, because it wasn't yet where the government had mandated.
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Stacey
Yes, yes, and I did. I remember calling you and you were mad. I was.
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Meghan
Real mad.
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Stacey
Yeah.
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Meghan
Yes. So that was a definite down.
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Stacey
That was a down. And I don't think it was long after that where they did shut it. It was that week. It was I.
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Meghan
Think it was a few days later. So I mean it was absolutely necessary. It was just holding out that hope that it wasn't going to be a big deal, not just for our business, but in life, like a full or complete denial that it was going to be that bad.
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Stacey
And we all were for a long time, though, because they said it was going to be a week. And so we were like, okay, we're going to be okay. And then there was that two weeks. But that's okay because we were all like, we're getting vacations. Okay, no big deal. We're all going to be fine after this.
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Meghan
Three months in a row and we're all crying at home. But I mean, when you called, like for me, there's multiple lows about it because I was so mad at you, which was unrealistic. It wasn't your choice. And then it was mandated the next week. So I mean, that was just us, and I apologize. that was just me overreacting.
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Stacey
You guys. she apologize to me
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Meghan
To me blaming you for a decision that needed to be made. And honestly, kudos for making that decision. Good for you. I know it was horrible. I cried the rest of the day and I'm sure you did too. The because I known the unknown.
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Stacey
Of everything and your team is your family like this? Teams are family and so we have a day explained to the team that I don’t
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Meghan
closing our door
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Stacey
Yeah. And I don't know when we're going to open them. They say, okay, so we should be okay for a week. But a lot of our team is like they come in here for to vent to, just to, for an escape. And like, you know how right now everyone's talking about third place. Most people have third places.
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Stacey
We are also somewhat a third place.
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Meghan
We definitely we are for us, which is no, because wait your first place is like your first and second places are your home and work right? Work. Your third place is supposed to be somewhere where you can relax and enjoy. Yeah, which is not supposed to be your work because they've specifically said one and two is your home and you work.
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Meghan
But you're right, we use.
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Stacey
Because the team's been around for so long. I'm talking like ten plus years for some of these girls.
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Meghan
So it's multiple people on our team outdate us. We took over their business and we took them on, and they're incredible people and they stay with us.
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Stacey
So trying to explain to your, let's see, your grandmother, your mother that you have to go home and you can't come in. And I don't know when you get to come back and I hope that we're here when you come back. Not that you're saying that part allowed, but the unknown for everyone was awful. So that part for was a complete low.
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Stacey
And yeah, cried like shutting the door on that emotion. I can feel my eyes welling up without that emotion of shutting the door for the last time that day, and not knowing when we'd be back is heartbreaking.
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Meghan
For ourselves and just you're right, the uncertainty and not being able to tell them anything we don't.
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Stacey
Know because they know. And then I for the team, then the brides. Yeah. Because then we had to deal with the unbelievable amount of phone calls of brides saying, is my dress there? Was my dress going to be okay, is kind of come in because of course shipments then started to get stopped and like having to help brides navigate their way through Covid.
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Stacey
We didn't know a lot of the time whether or not the dress was going to show up without the wedding can even go through. That was a low, but the high of all of it is. They were damn good at pivoting.
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Meghan
Yeah, you're right, that was kind of the linchpin in our ability to pivot or do whatever we needed to make it through.
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Stacey
And we did. And not only ask, but our team, like I will forever be grateful and beyond proud of what they accomplished during Covid. Because of course, by the time you're sitting at home for the third week, I've got extreme anxiety, which I realized not long ago. And the problem with I need to accomplish things. I need to work.
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Stacey
I need to be able to feel like I am getting things done. So sitting at home, I'm losing my mind. You can only clean your house so many times and then it is spotlessly clean and then you're like, well, what do I do next? We had previously and not long before this had started, like a five year plan of the business and what we want to do and all the things we needed to get done and, and the building that we're in is like an old Victorian building.
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Stacey
So it constantly needs updating or needs work. And we were still somewhat renovating from the previous owners. But let me tell you, when we said to our team, I need to get the house renovated, do you think you guys could work a skill saw and paint brushes and sanders? And you want to learn how to do trim, but you want to learn how to renovate a house?
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Stacey
Pretty much our entire team said yes, and they all came in. And that five year plan got done in five months, you know, with a team of women. But I am. So even right now, I'm so freaking proud of what they totally agree.
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Meghan
Yeah. Some of them had never lifted a drill before. Yeah. And this is us saying this in the sense that we we have all our lives like we grow up, we.
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Stacey
Growing.
00:19:21:07 - 00:19:21:23
Meghan
Everything.
00:19:21:23 - 00:19:31:23
Stacey
We grew up, we had. It was three girls and then our dad and mom, we grew up in the middle of nowhere, homesteading essentially. So the only way you getting the thing is if you made the thing.
00:19:31:25 - 00:19:36:21
Meghan
Yeah, we made all the food. Mom can do everything. We had a garden, we had animals. We did chop.
00:19:36:21 - 00:19:42:23
Stacey
chop wood so we can stay warm. Yeah, because there was no furnace. There was no furnace like school. We had to start for Meg now.
00:19:42:27 - 00:19:46:27
Meghan
Meg started the fire. I have a problem. It's fine, it's fine.
00:19:46:29 - 00:19:51:29
Stacey
So for us, it wasn't a big deal to do the things because we were like an even if we don't know how to do it, we'll figure out how.
00:19:51:29 - 00:20:07:03
Meghan
To do it. We never thought about it though. Like that. That was that was funny. Hey, can you use this drill to put this curtain rod in so that we can put a new curtain up there? And she was like, oh, okay, I just drill and I'm like, have you used a drill before even have okay, okay, okay.
00:20:07:03 - 00:20:12:04
Meghan
Let's start. Let's start a little earlier than that. I'll show you how to use the drill. It's just we just assumed it.
00:20:12:04 - 00:20:12:27
Stacey
Was 100%.
00:20:12:27 - 00:20:34:21
Meghan
I just knew everybody knows. But it was incredible. Like, the growth and the learning curve for everybody at that point was incredible. Yeah, yeah. And we got so much done in the building. We're so much further ahead because of the hard work during that time. Yeah. But then you're right. The brides like over all of this. Obviously some of our team were phone calls and emails and constantly trying to de-stress.
00:20:34:21 - 00:20:36:26
Stacey
And become psychologists. Essentially.
00:20:36:28 - 00:20:43:07
Meghan
Yeah. Because there was so much worry, so much fear. Nobody knew what was going to happen. And we we didn't have the answers.
00:20:43:09 - 00:20:59:15
Stacey
No, but and then all of a sudden, bang, I'm getting married in two weeks from now. What can you do for me? Because we're going to do that. But I need to have the dress fix or I need to pick it up and we're not allowed to see anybody. So we had to do a side door pickup and like, figure out what does that mean when I can't see a bride for a dress?
00:20:59:18 - 00:21:20:12
Stacey
Like, because weddings were still allowed to happen, even though you could only have it in your house with two people, and it was like, unbelievable. It was a mess. It was a mess. But thank goodness we were allowed to still have weddings because then the brides could still come. Have their wedding. And then what a lot of them even did was had a second wedding and after that as a reception.
00:21:20:12 - 00:21:24:06
Stacey
Yeah. And so we're able to have the wedding do that. You know.
00:21:24:09 - 00:21:36:26
Meghan
It's changed so many things in the wedding industry and it changed how we look at things in the wedding industry as the wedding itself. Yeah. But also how we look at our business being inside that industry, how we serve the client.
00:21:36:26 - 00:21:38:01
Stacey
Yeah,
00:21:38:03 - 00:21:51:25
Meghan
we were already becoming an experience before that because we already knew that it was necessary. But after that was really when we made all the changes to make sure that we're not just a place where you buy a white dress that not even clothes, really where it came into effect after Covid and we were able to reopen again and we were like, you know what?
00:21:51:25 - 00:22:04:09
Meghan
Like, what are we? What are we going to do? What do we what are we going to be? Who are we? Yeah, we don't sell the white dress anymore. We actually helped the bride, her family. We empower you. We create self-confidence. It's so much more than just piece of the clothing.
00:22:04:14 - 00:22:22:07
Stacey
Totally, almost start to finish. I mean, even, like we started with a phone call, like, you book an appointment, we start with a phone call to talk to you about what you were looking for, what you want your aspirations And then we walked through the entire process with you. And the dress stays in our building the entire time.
00:22:22:07 - 00:22:33:26
Stacey
If you use alterations. And so work through with the seamstress and in then we even go to a point, it will come to what it now and go and get dressed and make sure you get down the aisle, make sure everything's absolutely perfect. So it is start to finish.
00:22:33:26 - 00:22:45:00
Meghan
Because I think the realization that came out of all of this flux over the years was how much stress there is, how much pressure we put on ourselves, and if our job can be to take away some of that stress, that's that's the goal.
00:22:45:01 - 00:22:45:09
Stacey
Yeah.
00:22:45:09 - 00:23:03:18
Meghan
Every taking on one business, running one business. God. Let's go back even further. Life. Life has highs and lows. Life has ups and downs and it always will. And your ability to get through them is what makes your life. Then starting a business, owning a business, being a business owner creates even more highs and lows because you live them through your life.
00:23:03:18 - 00:23:06:14
Meghan
That you live them through your business too, because it's an extension of you.
00:23:06:14 - 00:23:07:04
Stacey
Definitely.
00:23:07:04 - 00:23:11:08
Meghan
And then add another business and another, and then another business.
00:23:11:11 - 00:23:27:00
Stacey
But I think you learned to navigate them so much easier and realize it isn't as stressful as what you think it is. You look at it, and if you look at it from an inside a perspective, not as the person who's business it is, I think there's always a solution to whatever the problem is, and I think I've gotten better at doing that through it.
00:23:27:00 - 00:23:28:15
Stacey
All the things that we've gone through
00:23:28:24 - 00:23:47:21
Meghan
I totally agree. It's like a quote and I'm going to butcher it. But I saw this thing the other day that was like one kid equals one kid, two kids equals five kids. Three kids equals 2596 kids. It's true. My house is absolute insanity. And then we had it in dogs too. Oh just crazy, but it's it's it's exactly that.
00:23:47:21 - 00:23:56:09
Meghan
But you learn more and learn how to manage more. The more that you do. Which is why we always say, just jump in. Sure. Have a plan.
00:23:56:12 - 00:24:07:13
Stacey
I have a plan have an idea. Because the problem is you can plan as much as you want. But what if the plan takes a 90 degree turn? Yeah. And you weren't planning for that? Then what do you do? You panic, you freak out. No, no. Like we've just learned pivot.
00:24:07:13 - 00:24:26:05
Meghan
And you pivot and you lean on your support system, which is what we've been talking about. Essentially everything through Covid, everything through the growth of our businesses is lean on our support system, definitely each other and everybody else in our business. Yeah, the people that we look to for not just solutions, but for discussion, for open like an open forum here.
00:24:26:05 - 00:24:44:16
Meghan
So build the community. Definitely. I think that's even more important than planning. I know you obviously need your plan, you need some groundwork, but you need the people around you to help you through it because there's going to be lows. And then if you don't have the people through the lows, then who's with you through the highs? Exactly.
00:24:44:16 - 00:25:02:03
Meghan
Who celebrates that high with you? Somebody might be like, let's say you start a business and your family, you're close with your family. Great. They'll support you through the lows, but they won't understand because they're not in the business. They will support you through the highs because they'll be excited that you're excited. But they don't understand. That's very true.
00:25:02:04 - 00:25:05:10
Meghan
So business support, business community. That's what we're here for.
00:25:05:11 - 00:25:06:12
Stacey
We got you.
00:25:06:15 - 00:25:21:24
Meghan
We got you. Empowerment and self-confidence and delusional support. Absolutely. We got that too. We've got enough delusion to go around. So let's grow join us. Follow us. Subscribe. Whatever the words are for podcasts that I don't know.
00:25:21:27 - 00:25:32:18
Stacey
If you want to join this community, follow, subscribe and you don't even have to do it on this platform you're listening to us on. You can follow us on Instagram, on TikTok, on YouTube.
00:25:32:18 - 00:25:42:00
Meghan
We're everywhere. We're everywhere, and we'll tell you all about it. Obviously, the highs, the lows, the times we didn't talk last year.
00:25:42:02 - 00:25:42:22
Stacey
Thanks for listening to us everybody